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Science Gave Us Josef Mengele

And science also gave us Josef Mengele‘s experiments and vivisections on pregnant women during WWII. Science cannot even tell us what energy is. They don’t know what it is.
God created the universe.

This was the last comment that I responded to in a discussion which was supposed to be about an interesting and important bit of scientific research. Some folks cannot bear to see science discussed openly and critically. My response is that certain polemic tactics are unsuitable for discussion. I will not participate in a discussion with this pathetic person again. This person is not a singular blemish on rationality and decency: there is filth such as “Cuomo’s Anti-Christian Worship Of Science Once Led To Medical Atrocities Committed By The Nazis“.

I offer, here, in contrast to the blatantly false assertion above, some of the things that Religion – Christianity in particular – and Science have actually given us. These things are not a comprehensive, or even a balanced, list. This is a blog serving only to rid the world of at least a fragment of the vicious lie quoted above.

Christianity has given us justifications & rationalizations for many cultural and social errancies. This list begins with slavery and the suppression & subjugation of women. Those alone are almost enough.

Old and New Testament scriptures have been misinterpreted by Christians, causing the Christian religion to become an imperialistic war-mongering religion, whose adherents have believed that they were instructed by God to invade the homelands of non-Christian peoples, take possession of their lands and resources, annihilate many of the indigenous inhabitants as well as subjugate and exploit the remaining innocent indigenous peoples. – Thomas Ivan Dahlheimer

As for atrocities comparable to Mengele’s, Christianity has given us a portion of those: assaults upon peoples with other religions ; assaults upon other Christians, such as The Troubles in Northern Ireland ; associations of Televangelists such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson with thugs Charles Taylor and Efraín Ríos Montt ; and a substantial list, “What About Atrocities That Have Been Done in the Name of Religion?“. The “What About …” list is a Christian source which classifies religions such as Islam as “Atheist”.

Yes, Nazis have contributed. We know of The Holocaust which killed millions:

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By defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord– Adolf Hitler, ‘ Mein Kampf ‘

Many historical figures, who are familiar to my readers, have offered their candid observations about Christianity:

I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good… Our goal is a Christian Nation. We have a Biblical duty; we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don’t want equal time. We don’t want pluralism. – Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue

‘O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; . . . help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land. . . . We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love.’ – Mark Twain, published posthumously in 1923

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.” James Madison, April 1, 1774

Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. – George Washington, letter to Sir Edward Newenham, June 22, 1792

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Mengele’s semi-divine Fuhrer’s contributions may be perused at “Hitler’s Christianity“.

What of Science? There isn’t a single religion that can offer reliable predictions about anything in Nature. Even if “Science cannot even tell us what energy is”, it does a great job of faking it. Science has created mankind’s supreme mastery of energy. In forms from the dense to the diffuse, common folks use energy in ways for which no religion has offered the slightest whiff of a contribution.

Science has created cures for an immense array of diseases and maladies. Science (and, interestingly, Big Government and World Government) has succeeded in a historic public-health project – the eradication of smallpox, which was a major source of misery and death.

Do not be mislead. I continue my Christian life for its substantial value. The example of Christ is essential to my life. Science is also a central element of my life. May we all appreciate our religions, or lack of religion, and our understanding of the natural world objectively and without propagandistic accusations.

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5 Responses to “Science Gave Us Josef Mengele”


  1. December 4, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Science vs. religion is apples vs. oranges. Religion demands obedience, science requires rationality. Religion condemns, science cares as much as a hammer loves a carpenter. Religion provides structure for an ethic and is a vaccination for awareness of mortality, but to embrace both science and religion requires cognitive dissonance. IMHO.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

  2. December 4, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Re: the teabagger blogpost:

    The teabagger’s talk about Obama are quite possibly the most extreme form of Godwin violation. Obama does freakin’ NOTHING, and yet somehow he gets compared to one of the most notorious murderers of modern times. He will go down in history books as the Saber-Toothed Milquetoast.

  3. 4 Jim
    December 3, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Folks who click on this post, to see it on a separate page, will find a WordPress-provided link (not mine!) under ‘Possibly related posts:’. This link, ‘Obama’s Mengele’, includes the statement, pertinent for this post:

    “Josef Mengele has resurfaced as Barack Obama’s “Science Czar,” technically his Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. It’s bad enough to be appointed by Chancellor Obama for anything, but this man monster is extreme even for the Der Amerikan Fuhrer.”

    It is another example of what I am protesting. This applies equally to those who have been hyperbolic about the misdeeds of the preceeding American administration. If something is wrong, or disagreeable, call it what it is – not scurrilous caricatures.

  4. December 3, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    Smallpox? More like small potatoes! Not just one cured disease, not just thousands of cured diseases, but thousands of cures, contraptions, conveniences can be attributed to science.

    Religion? Not so much.


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