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The Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Creation Truth

Our buddy, Johnny Kaje, got us going yesterday with ‘Day One-ish of the Big Silly Jesus Circus: Lies About Dinosaurs‘. This is a perceptive article by someone whose viewpoint is ‘reality-based’. Start there, and then come back here (ya gotta promise to come back!).

Dr. G. Thomas Sharp, founder of the Creation Truth Foundation, does presentations regarding what he considers to be the greatest threat to Christian families: secular thinking, especially “Darwinian evolutionism” (sic). Today, I attended a session ‘Mount St. Helens’ of his 3-day seminar.

Be Sharp, DoctorSharp {it is difficult for me to repeatedly use the appellation of “Dr.” for a title bestowed by a Bible College – yes, I know of some fine institutions – but I’d have to see some bona fides first} is not the sort of Intelligent Design Luddite that we usually encounter. He offers a sort of Creationist antithesis to I.D.. He makes no attempt to establish scientific validity for his beliefs: “If this were a scientific issue, it would already be solved … but, it’s religious” and “Creation and Evolution are 100% biases”. He asserts that his viewpoint and that of science are both exclusively religious.

His homogeneous tactic, spread like smooth peanut butter to the very edges of a world-view sandwich, is to show that science is defective, even stupid (a word which he never used, offering instead the equivalents of condescension and derision). The logic sequence which he re-iterates is: Since ‘science’and religion are really both religious, and since science is defective, then, ipso facto, his religious view is correct. He made zero effort to establish any credibility for (his) religion. Such an effort would probably have been superfluous for most of the audience.

It is difficult in this space to analyse the deficiencies paraded before us in an hour. Smart’s comment at 50 minutes is exemplary: he said that since the talk was to be about Mount St. Helens (not yet discussed), he had “10 minutes to talk about the good stuff”. It felt like I had been confronted by a burglar who, instead of taking my valuables, devoted much time to sticking me with a knife before saying “oh, yeah – I came here to get valuables”.

How does a person receive a Ph.D. (with an ’emphasis’ in the philosophy of religion and science) and yet exhibit such an utter lack of organization? Also, his intellectual rigor was, at best, mortised. This is why I do not grant Bible Colleges the same assumed respect that I apply to my hometown state university.

There were many (many, many) other deficiencies in simple content. Try these:Engineering is like a Triceratops Butt

“Mount St. Helens was the smallest known volcano in the history of record keeping.”

But it formed the “biggest land debris slide in the history of record keeping.” {He insisted upon repeating the strange phrase “land debris slide” subsequently.}

“Fossils are not made by dying.” But this “probably includes dying.” {I think that this might have been an example of profundity.}

“The Heavens are where the birds fly.” {His Biblical exegesis is as poor as his science.}

Regarding a geological process: “how long it would take based on observable reality.” {“Observable reality” being incorrect, in his view.}

We “can’t put creation / evolution predictions in a test tube and test them.” {Which would be pointless, regardless – “observable reality” being bogus.}

“Geological uniformitarianism is the result of the lusts of men.” {I heard of another guy who says that rape is the result of the lusts of women. These statements leave the stork as the best explanation for pregnancy.}

I’m not a scientist.” {This one is ok by him, by the majority of his audience, and by me.}

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17 Responses to “The Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But the Creation Truth”


  1. 1 Jim
    September 8, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Hi, ‘arthuriandaily’ – I encourage you to actually comment, beyond merely linking to your blog. If you do comment, please understand that we discuss (in a generally polite manner) reality on ‘Hey! Get This . . .’ Your blog’s Great Disclaimer, “Any resemblance to reality is purely coincidental”, does serve to clarify the reason for the confusion exemplified by your link. Have a nice day – Jim

  2. 3 Jim
    April 2, 2010 at 10:49 am

    I did not think that Charles Jackson would “run”. He is too well paid to do exactly what he is doing: baiting those whom he opposes with childish taunts, and exploiting his exchanges for fundraising. That is the capitalist way, if not the Christian Way. It is his American right to do so, as long as he does not illegally expropriate the property of others, such as the Copyrighted content of a blog.

    Substantial examples of Jackson’s frail integrity and utter failure to respond substantively to critical content can be found in comments at:
    [http://johnnykaje.wordpress.com/2010/03/16/day-one-ish-of-the-big-silly-jesus-circus-lies-about-dinosaurs/]

  3. April 2, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Well I’m just looking forward to our little meet-up. You’re too late to book me for May, so you’ll have to try for June. Please don’t wait any longer. We wouldn’t want you to forget all the snappy phrases you’ve all worked so hard at your keyboards and at Sonic to produce. DrJ
    Pick a topic, get a champion. We’ll do this. I like it. Did you think I’d run? Notta.

  4. 5 Heavin Bound
    March 28, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    I don preciate you bashin an defamin Doctr Sharp thet way. he be a fine man who is tellin the truf bout the way it is. You hethens will be cryin when Jesus come back.

  5. March 21, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    “You an Kaje make a formidable pair to take on the uneducated of the world today”

    He’s an engineer with a tripping sweet camera. She’s a graphic designer with a gender innappropriate name.

    They’re cops.

  6. March 21, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    I do like what you have published here Jim. You an Kaje make a formidable pair to take on the uneducated of the world today. Keep up the good work.

  7. 8 Jim
    March 18, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    I will take anything resembling a compliment, especially from a good person, and most especially from that good person.

    Being quoted by someone I respect is the overhead smash of compliments.

  8. March 18, 2010 at 10:24 am

    “You have stated in comments to Kaje, “Evolution will never be a proven fact.” I have encountered folks who, similarly, assert that ‘you can’t prove that we are talking to each other’. This is correct for a person whose criteria of truth is dysfunctional, derived to shield them from falsifiability.”

    THIS.

    Thank you. That’s going in the quotebook.

  9. March 18, 2010 at 10:12 am

    “I don’t believe that you see science as your god. After meeting you I can see that you are much too nice a guy for that.”

    LOL. Nice backhanded compliment.

  10. 11 Calvin and Luther Will Kick Your Atheist Behind
    March 18, 2010 at 7:08 am

    Jim,

    I don’t believe that you see science as your god. After meeting you I can see that you are much too nice a guy for that. But, I do think in general, many people do.

    And surely God laughs when we think that we know more than he does. And I agree with you, science does show us our human deficiencies

    The universe was made beautiful and majestic for our benefit. It mirrors the beauty of God. And naturally we are fascinated with it and want to study it. It just makes me sad that so many scientists have an end goal of “killing God”. Good luck getting that accomplished.

    I do agree with you, science does show us our human deficiencies. But, doesn’t this go beyond science? When I look out my window every created thing I see gives me a feeling of overwhelming gratitude. Every day I am amazed at the wonder of my simple, plain life and humbled that God would have any interest in me and love for me and humanity in general, the blessing that is common grace. We are so undeserving.

    And without God it really is meaningless.

    Every created part of the universe bows in reverence to the all knowing, all loving, all mighty God.

    (Kaje told me I might change my posting name because it sounds trollish. BUT I JUST CAN’T. I only use it on your page and her’s. THE PICTURE IN MY MIND OF CALVIN AND LUTHER IN THOSE ROBES THEY WORE AND THOSE CRAZY ROUND HATS ON THEIR HEADS AS THEY KICK SOMEONE’S BACKSIDE IS JUST PRICELESS. I CAN’T LET IT GO).

  11. March 18, 2010 at 2:13 am

    God is not laughing at us. He created us with this profound desire to know more about the world. We – atheist, ‘science-worshipper’, deist, Muslim, Buddhist, and Christian – view His face every time we introduce a scientific revelation. Science is the one human activity which consistently acknowledges our human deficiencies and has specific mechanisms to avoid and correct errancies. Such integrity is the source for vast quantities of quotes (by scientists, publicizing their own errors, et al.) for unperceptive and deceptive folks (ain’t pointing no fingers here!) to use for propagandistic manipulation. I do not accept science as a deity, and there are extremely few scientists who do so. I do have deep appreciation for its immense and incomparable power to introduce us to a beautiful world.

  12. 13 Calvin and Luther Will Kick Your Atheist Behind
    March 17, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Jim,

    Science isn’t God and never will be.

    There are people who want science to be their god.

    God is infallible.

    Science will always be fallible.

    God is laughing at us.

  13. March 17, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Your description of the boring “pseudo-Dr.” Sharp is dead on. After sitting through an hour of his his talking I came to two conclusions:

    1. this guy likes to ‘sound’ smart. He is talking to a crowd of average people as if they were all geologist or biologist. I suspect he does this on purpose, as to say, “Look how smart I am… Just agree with me.

    2. This guy can’t make up his mind. Like a split-personality he says Science is bull-crap, now here’s some “evidence” to support that claim… don’t believe scientist… but believe me.

    He’s an annoying person that I would avoid at all cost. However, he did challenge the local free-thought *group to a debate in front of a seriously large audience. Now all we have to do, is find a real scientist that takes this matter seriously enough to indulge this “Dr.”

    Thanks for everything Jim.

    *Joplinfreethinkers.org (Joplin Missouri)

  14. March 17, 2010 at 7:57 am

    C&LWKYAB,

    It is understandable that you recommend the link as a “really intelligent argument”. It is, within Prof. Plantinga’s discipline, an interesting outline which real metaphysics pros can enjoy jumping into. I do not.

    The link offers nothing relevant to the central issue presented by a religious contingent: that there is no observable, testable reality (Sharp). It does not matter how skillfully Plantinga forms his logic when we are dealing with folks who assert that certain things are not testable, despite their having already been tested.

    Logic arguments are also trumped by Sharp’s statement that Creation and Evolution are 100% biases. He is not merely avoiding objective support for his Creationist attitudes – he is actively rejecting it. Apart from that statement, Sharp’s presentation of items which gave the appearance of seeking to make objective connections was diversionary.

    You have stated in comments to Kaje, “Evolution will never be a proven fact.” I have encountered folks who, similarly, assert that ‘you can’t prove that we are talking to each other’. This is correct for a person whose criteria of truth is dysfunctional, derived to shield them from falsifiability.

    The great and misunderstood power of Science is its persistent capacity for self-correction and continual improvement. Truth is frequently found by seeking ‘falsehoods’ – negative results. No other human activity is comparable.

    I reject Sharp’s denial of observable, testable reality. I find that a major part of the beauty of Creation and the Universe is its accessibility to our desire to explore it and know it intimately. This, I believe, conforms to the Mind of God when He “saw that it was good”.

    – Jim


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